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Odessa Village Census Indices

by Dale Wahl

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Copyright 1998, Dale Lee Wahl, 7370 Grevena Ave NE,
Bremerton WA 98311-4046

As village compilations of the 1858 census for the Odessa area are completed and ready for sale by both the GRHS and AHSGR (for the same price), we shall try to periodically update the following index.

For gaining insight into which village census are available at any given time, keep an eye on the two homepages:

This is a project of the GRHS Clearing House, but both organizations are sharing in the effort.

CENSUS BACKGROUND

Census were taken of our German Russian people in Russia starting with the earlier coming of the Volga people into the Volga area. In 1816, the new "Revision List" (RL) census was engaged. It is for that reason that many of the census records reflected in the Stumpp book for some of the Odessa area villages is so widely used.

There continued to be periodic census through the following years and a few of our Odessa villages do indeed reflect some of these following years. The year of 1858 is the most popular year in the Odessa villages for these following RLs.

The Odessa area was (according to the Stumpp book) essentially made up of; Grossliebental District, Glückstal District, Kutschurgan District, and the Beresan District. While the Grossliebental and Beresan Districts were made up of both Evangelical and Catholic people, the Glückstal villages were primarily just Lutheran and the Kutschurgan was Catholic.

Let us take a little space here and examine the villages that were in existence for these villages in 1858, and what RLs are reflected for those villages in the Stumpp book.

 

Stumpp Book (page 88), ODESSA Area (Formerly Cherson)
GROSSLIEBENTAL District w/founding year
  . . .Alexanderhilf 1805
  . . .Franzfeld 1805/09
  . . .Freudental 1806
  . . .Grossliebental 1803/04
  . . .Güldendorf 1817
  . . .Helenental 1838
  . . .Josefstal 1804/10
  . . .Klein Liebental 1804
  . . .Lustdorf 1805
  . . .Marienthal 1804/09
  . . .Neuburg 1805
  . . .Neu Freudental 1828
  . . .Peterstal 1805

Stumpp Book (page 90), ODESSA Area (Formerly Cherson)
BERESAN District w/founding year
  . . .Johannestal    1820
  . . .Karlsruhe      1817
  . . .Katharinental  1817
  . . .Landau         1809/10
  . . .München       1809
  . . .Rastatt        1809/10
  . . .Rohrbach       1809
  . . .Speyer         1809
  . . .Sulz           1809
  . . .Waterloo       1819/33
  . . .Worms          1809

Stumpp Book (page 89), ODESSA Area (Formerly Cherson)
GLUECKSTAL District w/founding year
  . . .Bergdorf       1808/09
  . . .Glückstal     1809
  . . .Kassel         1810
  . . .Neudorf        1809
  . . .Grigoriopol    1803/09
  . . .Hoffnungstal   1819

Stumpp Book (page 89), ODESSA Area (Formerly Cherson)
Kutschurgan District w/founding year
  . . .Baden          1808
  . . .Elsass         1808
  . . .Kandel         1808
  . . .Mannheim       1808
  . . .Selz           1808
  . . .Strassburg     1808
If we now review these same villages data in the Stumpp book to determine which of them has any 1858 census or later data we find some very interesting patterns.

GROSSLIEBENTAL;
All 1816 RL and nothing later. Even Güldendorf and Helenental has no RL listed at all with their respective data.

BERESAN;
All 1816 RL except for

  Johannestal   1825 - 1830
  Katharinental 1834
  Landau        1816 & 1891
GLÜCKSTAL;
All includes both 1816 and 1858 both except Glückstal only based on 1816 and Hoffnungstal only based on 1858. (and Grigoriopol not included at all)

KUTSCHURGAN;
All based on 1816 census only.

We also must understand the history of Waterloo, the different dates of founding, the 1816 census for Waterloo, and the relationship with the resulting village of Güldendorf to have a full appreciation as to how some of these villages history weaves together.

OBTAINING THE RECORDS

AHSGR has spent many years evolving the relationship that exists today with RAGAS. This relationship has resulted in a conduit for the joining GRHS and AHSGR records retrieval under takings.

When some of the members of the Beresan District group found that RAGAS had found a source for some of our Odessa area villages' 1858 census/revision lists, it caused an initiation of many efforts that resulted in funds being collected to go forth to bring us the villages of Odessa German Russian 1858 census records that had been located. This was done pretty much in the blind with some of the descriptions of what was available.

The Beresan District group came up with some funds to start the effort, followed by Hoffnungstal parish with some of their funds. This was then taken to the GRHS committee and rest of the funds were found to go forth and bring these many old census records to us from the old Russian archives where RAGAS had located them.

While we awaited the arrival of the raw records, the GRHS Clearing House organized a project to set up a process in order to get these records into English so they could be shared to the membership of the GRHS and AHSGR.

Five project coordinators volunteered to under take the effort. Much organizational work was undertaken to understand how to process these RLs and produce a product that was most usable to the organizations memberships.

The results of that effort is what you find in the end product.

UNDERSTANDING THE PRODUCT

We will not try to explain the course of actions that was undertaken to arrive at what this product looks like, but here will attempt to simply help you in your understanding of what you will be looking at.

The raw census is on a two page format. The male data of the household on the left side while the female data is on the right. The writing is Russian.

The Russian language has several little nuances that makes the German names appear very different in English. We will see some of these exampled in the census products themselves.

We did consider applying Stumpp's format but decided against it as some folks have a hard time using the data in that form.

One of earlier thoughts was to keep the data as much like the original as possible - in form and format. We knew when we made that decision that we would end up using more paper in the final village product. You will see that form and format prevailing in these various village census data.

It was also an early decision set that said the data would be made available in paper form rather than digital -- and it was determined that the most manageable packaging of the completed product would be to retain the data in village packages.

(As far as understanding which villages census will finally end up on this census index list - this is an on-going project and it is far too early to try to determine this as we are still looking for census files of the South Russian German Russian villages. An interesting note involving South Russian census, we have great data in the Stumpp Book for the Bessarabian area but no census data what so ever - and we don't have a hint to where to look of the Crimea census data yet either. The GRHS Clearing House can tell you at any given time what village data is in hand and what we are working with.)

  1. The Emigration from Germany to Russia in the years 1763 to 1862 by Karl Stumpp
  2. Also referred to as Liebental District.
  3. We should note that Gueldendorf will occur in both the historical records of the Grossliebental and Beresan Districts!