Germans From RussiaGROSSLIEBENTAL & MORE, 1993

Herb Poppke

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* This compilation and the enhanced images were prepared by Roger W. Ehrich at the suggestion of Rachel Schmidt of GRHS and Dale Wahl. This work is copyrighted by Roger Ehrich; however, the images and annotations themselves are the work of, and have been placed in the public domain by Herb Poppke so that they may be freely used with proper attribution. The negatives and double resolution raw image scans are in the possession of the Germans from Russia Heritage Society, Bismarck ND. -re

Herb Poppke
3015 NW Market Street #B117
Seattle, WA 98107-4272
(206) 789-0871
In the fall of 1993 I made a 32-day "solo" trip to the Ukraine. I traveled with a car, driver, and translator. The trip was arranged by the MIR Corp. in Seattle, WA. My Ukrainian headquarters were Kiew and Odessa. I did some scouting around in Kiew and Odessa, but my major activity was in Germanic settlement areas. I compiled a FOTO-ALBUM for each of these areas:

GLÜCKSTAL Foto Album, 1993 (NW of Odessa)
SHITOMIR Foto Album, 1993 (Volhynia)
TEPLITZ Foto Album, 1993 (Bessarabia)
GROSSLIEBENTAL Foto Album, 1993 (Odessa area)

Since copyrights and resolution make it impractical to include most of the maps in the online albums, I have produced 4 SUPPLEMENTS. These contain the maps and other items omitted from the online versions. I have made 3 copies of each of the SUPPLEMENTS. They are located at:

GRHS, Bismarck - (701) 223-6167
Herb Poppke, Seattle - (206) 789-0871
David Poppke, Bismarck - (701) 223-7990
ENJOY!!
January 2002
Herb Poppke

Place Name Index
Map Index

Abbreviations:

HRHeritage Review, GRHS.
HdRHeimatbuch der Deutschen aus Russland.
HdBHeimatbuch der Deutschen aus Bessarabien.
HHSHeight's Homesteaders on the Steppes.
HPSHeight's Paradise on the Steppes.
HMGHeight's Memories of the Black Sea Germans.
BHKBessarabien Heimat Kalender
AWPAHSGR Workpaper
GWPGRHS Workpaper
JLAHSGR Journal
SBGRHS Stammbaum
ACAHSGR Clues
WVWandering Volhynian Newsletter
GCRGlückstal Colony Research Newsletter.
PSGPuget Sound, GRHS, Newsletter.
BRDBeacon Review, Denver Area(?).

Please click on the thumbnail images to view them in higher resolution


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GROSSLIEBENTAL (Martinskoye, Bolschaja Akarscha, Veliko Dolinskoye)

Founded in 1803.
3284 people in 1918
3410 people in 1943.

23,112 acres in 1918.

D-8 on map A02.
46° 20.6' N × 30° 34.5' E.

Wednesday, 13 Oct 1993
AHSGR WP-20, pp 44-48, 1976.

  • (a) 47K27 New Ukranian Minaret on the old Lutheran Church Grossliebental.
  • (b) 47K35 Sign leaving Grossliebental on the way to Kleinliebental.
  • (c) 47K22 Looking S.E. Note the Church. Long buildings might be Collective Bldgs.
  • (d) 47K33 Rear of old school.
Map P383.11 w/Appendix.
Map P383.111 w/Kellersheim.
Map P174.61 with Odessa City.
Map A02.4 w/Josephstal.

272078 Ukraine
Odessa Oblast
Ovidiopolskie Raion
Selo Velikodolinskoye

A German (?): Did not find him
Gari Fiebig (Fiebich(?))
Kruiskoe(?) Street #5.

  • (e) 47K32 Front of Church.
  • (f) 47K29 Side of Church.
  • (g) 47K26 Foundation, Church.
Church was built in 1846 out of Gelblicher Muschelkalk.
(Yellowish Limestone)
(Schnurr pp 496-497)

Church is now being converted to a Ukrainian. The original front of the Church is now the rear of the Church.

(The Ukrainians have an eastern orientation(?). The congregation will be facing east) Standing only.

  • (h) 47K34 New "Dome" and Steeple. (Minaret)
  • (i) 47K28 New "Dome."
  • (j) 47K30 Church Bells.
The new "Dome" and Steeple are near the former rear of the Church.

The Bells are in the former rear of the Church, which is now the front of the Church.

The present Altar is at the former front of the church. The east end.

  • (k) 47K23 Crypt.
  • (l) 47K25 Iron Cross (green)
  • (m) 47K24 Iron Cross (black)
The present Ukrainian Cemetery is in the south end of town - south of the Church.

There are many old Crypts and old Iron Crosses.

There are several old Gravestones but no inscriptions.

I don't know if these Crypts and Crosses are German. Catholic??? Ukrainian???? Did our people use Crypts?


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ALEXANDERHILF (Alexejewka, Dobro Aleksandrovka)

Founded in 1804.
8281 acres in 1918.

930 people in 1918.
1357 people in 1943.

Wednesday, 13 Oct 1993.

Karl Stumpp's village.

C-8 on map A02.
46° 20.0' N × 30° 29.1' E.

Map P383.11 w/Appendix.
Map P383.111 w/Kellersheim.
Map P174.61 w/Odessa City.
Map A02.4 w/Josephstal.

  • (a) 47K17 Back of Church.
  • (b) 47K21 Herb Poppke and Ernst Griner.
  • (c) 47K20 Inna 1973 Red. Mariya 1951 Blue. Lida 1971 Grey.
Ernst is a German. Born in Poland, 1944. Family came from the Nikolajew area. Ernst came back from Siberia in 1957.

Ernst has Birth Certificates and other documents.

His wife, Mariya is a Bulgarian.

His sister(?) also lives in Alexanderhilf.

There had been other Germans living on Proletarskaya Street who had moved to Germany.

Ernst Godgoldovich Griner (Grüner(?))

272079 Ukraine
Odessa Oblast
Ovidiopolskie Raion
Selo Dobro Aleksandrovka
Proletarskaya Street 27.

Polish town is Magiushev?

  • (d) 47K7 Pan
  • (e) 47K4 Fence & Cross
  • (f) 47K1 Crypt
  • (g) 47K9 Stone
  • (h) 47K6 View
  • (i) 47K2 Iron Cross
  • (j) 47K3 Crypt
  • (k) 47K5 Crypt
  • (l) 47K18 At School
  • (m) 47K12 Front of Church
  • (n) 47K8 Stone
  • (o) 47K13 At Vladimir's House
  • (p) 47K19 School Entrance. Note the sign.
  • (q) 47K11 Side & Rear of School.
  • (r) 47K10 Concrete Curb and Cast Iron "fence" at School.
  • (s) 47K16 Herb & Vladimir.
  • (t) 47K14 Vladimir's house #3.
  • (u) 47K15 The Chicken.
Vladimir Efimovich Piro?yenko.

He knew some German or was it English(?).

He had worked as a Merchant Marine. He had a car.

The concrete "posts" were from the old German Cemetery. He has installed them as gate posts.


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NEUBURG (Wladimirowka, Novogradkovka

46° 21.4' N × 30° 29.4' E.
C-8 on map A02.

Founded in 1804.
801 people in 1918.
1110 people in 1943

8219 Acres in 1918

Wednesday, 13 Oct 1993.

HR-21/2, May 1991, P5, Höhn

GCRA 7/1, p15, p17, 1994,
HR-25/1, Mar 1995, p41, Höhn

Map P383.11 w/Appendix.
Map P383.111 w/Kellersheim.
Map P174.61 w/Odessa City.
Map A02.4 w/Josephstal.

  • (a) 47K0 Sign. Alyosha #1 = Driver. Alexei #2 - Transl. Sovkhoz-Zavod State Farm Dnestrovskiy.
  • (b) 46K28 Höhn House German Industrialist. Went to Germany.
  • (c) 46K36 Prone Stone.
Keosyan, Nelli VASILYEVNA
272060 Ukraine
Odessa Oblast
Ovidiopol Raion
Selo Novogradkovka
Lenina Street #64

Born in 1945, She did not permit a photograph.

Klimyenko, Irma Fridriknovna
A German woman was not at home.

Nelli lived across the street from the Höhn House.

  • (d) 46K33 Crypt with flowers.
  • (e) 46K32 Crypt.
  • (f) 46K37 Iron Cross.
I was surprised to see an Iron Cross in Neuburg. These Crosses are generally Catholic.

I was not aware that our "Rooshins" employed Crypts.

Crypts were common in this area.

  • (g) 46K35 Crib with Tree.
  • (h) 46K34 Stones in Buryan.
Graves were often enclosed in a fence. Mostly Ukrainian graves.

It seemed that a tree would often be planted with each body(?).

Buryan Wild Grass; Weeds; Underbrush.

  • (i) 46K29 Front of Church.
  • (j) 46K31 Side of Church.
  • (k) 46K30 DOM KULTURI
The Church was built in 1905.

Limestone - Muschelkalk - construction.

Now used as a House of Culture.

The House of Culture front was the steeple end.

See pages 501-503 of Die Kirchen und das . . . . by Joseph Schnurr.


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MARIENTAL / ODESSA (Catholic) (Georgijewka, Maryanovka)

Founded in 1805.
8051 Acres in 1918.
1013 people in 1918.
1512 people in 1943.

46° 23.3' N × 30° 27.6' E
C-8 on map A02.

Wednesday, 13 Oct 1993.

AHSGR WP-20, p49, 1976.

  • (a) 46K29 Tatyana, Nina, Aleksandr, A boy, & Kostya.
  • (b) 46K26 Mariya & Kostya.
272072 Ukraine
Odessa Oblast
Ovidiopolskie Raion
Selo Maryanovka
Molodezhnaya Street 43

Kochmarik, Mariya Mikhailovna, b1963

Tsventsig(?), Nina, b1934 (Nee Chabanova) Danilovna

Estranged husband is Aleksandr Yakoblyevich.

The Aleksandr on 46K25 is not Nina's husband.

The 2 boys are just neighbors.

A German lived across the street but he was not at home.

Lenina Street 65
George Liebenstein

The old buildings shown on the next page are in Nina's neighborhood.
Lenina Street 70(?).

Someone came back from Siberia in 1963 but I don't remember who!

  • (c) 46K26 Mariental
  • (d) 46K27 Mariental
  • (e) 46K23 #70(?) Buildings near Nina's. Lenina St.
  • (f) 46K22 #17(?)
  • (g) 45K37 Mariental
  • (h) 45K35 Biblioteka - Library
  • (i) 45K34 Church built in 1890(?) out of good Limestone.
  • (j) 45K36
  • (k) 46K13 Herb Poppke
  • (l) 46K18 Mariental
  • (m) 46K9 Sorry that I ruined the pictures.
  • (n) 46K17
  • (o) 46K11 Herb Poppke
  • (p) 46K0 There were additional crosses that I have not shown.
  • (q) 46K2 Sorry that I ruined the pictures.
  • (r) 46K1 Alexei #2 - Translator
  • (s) 46K3 Mariental
  • (t) 46K19
  • (u) 46K6
  • (v) 46K5
  • (w) 46K8
There are additional Crosses that I have not included.

Map P383.11 w/Appendix.
Map P383.111 w/Kellersheim.
Map P174.61 w/Odessa City.
Map A02.4 w/Josephstal.


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PETERSTAL (Petrovka, Petrodolinskoye, Prolimanskoye)

Founded in 1805.
916 people in 1918.
1111 people in 1943.

813 Acres in 1918.
8100 Acres in 1940.

46° 25.7' N × 30° 23.9' E
C-8 on map A02

Tuesday, 12 Oct 1993

Note how power poles are installed.

A funeral procession going north at the north end of town. A brass band brought up the rear of the procession.

  • (a) 45K15 A small group of kids.
  • (b) 45K16 A red truck.
  • (c) 45K17 Bright sweaters.
Map P383.11 w/Appendix.
Map P383.111 w/Kellersheim.
Map P174.61 w/Odessa City.
Map A02.4 w/Josephstal.

Paul Oberlander.

  • (d) 45K18 Yellow Truck.
  • (e) 45K19 End of Procession.
  • (f) 45K20 Ira - Grey. Efrosinya = Red.
Glushyenko, Efrosinya Anisimova

272071 Ukraine
Ovidiopolskie Raion.
Odessa Oblast.
Sadovaya Street #34
Selo Petrodolinskoye


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FREUDENTAL (Nikolayevskoye, Mirnoye)

46° 28.1' N × 30° 21.4' E.
C-8 on map A02.

Founded in 1805
10,800 acres in 1918.
1790 people in 1916.
1471 people in 1943.

Tuesday, 12 Oct 1993.

Map P383.11 w/Appendix.
Map P383.111 w/Kellersheim.
Map P174.61 w/Odessa City.
Map A02.4 w/Josephstal.

  • (a) 45K14 Sign + Herb Poppke
  • (b) 45K3 Evdokiya, b1911, Gray; Boots. Nesterova, Anna Ivanovna, b1913, Blue; Slippers.
  • (c) 45K10 Looking North from Limestone Quarry.
45K11 and 12 are located in the Limestone Section.

Quarry is located south of town. See Teplitz Volume.

Ralph Wiseman Village.

The slash thru the sign indicates leaving the city.

  • (d) 45K7 Looking west towards City Center.
  • (e) 45K9 Looking west from City Center toward a house.
  • (f) 45K8 Remains of the German Church.
Note Ukrainian Iron Cross in background.
Why is lower arm at an angle?
Note the cloth drapped over the Cross.

The Cemetery is located north(?) of town.

The German Cemetery is located east(?) of the Ukrainian Cemetery.

There are many bases but no(?) inscriptions.

  • (g) 45K4 A Stone.
  • (h) 45K13 Felyenuk, Ivan Petrovich born 1939. Felyenuk, Viktor Ivanovich born 1965.
  • (i) 45K5 Viktor & Alexei #2. Looking NW(?).
We ate our lunch in the Felyenuk driveway under the grape arbor.

Ivan had made a big bowl of Borscht.

272014 Ukraine,
Odessa Oblast,
Belyaevskie Raion


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KELLERSHEIM / ODESSA (k) (Dobro zhanovo, Dobri schano)

C-7 on Map A02.
1-1/2 km west of Karlstal.
8 km NNW of Freudental.

26 people in 1943.

Dissolved after 1918.

Kellersheim is located on the east shoulder of a narrow valley. The cemetery is located on the west shoulder. The valley is about 1/4± mile wide.

Tuesday, 12 Oct 1993.

  • (a) 44K34 Looking NE toward North end of town.
  • (b) 44K33 Looking ESE toward South end of town. Karlstal in background. Old "German" stones at near-right. Ukrainian Cemetery at near-left. Pelagyeya home is shown.
  • (c) 44K36 Looking West from South end of town. Old "German" stones are left of the Ukrainian Cemetery.
I don't know for certain that the old stones are for Germans(?). See picture 44K35.

Map P383.11 in appendix.
P383.111 with Kellersheim

(Shown is Alexi #2 my translator)

(By Herb Poppke, Dec 1993)

We had no particular reason to visit Kellersheim, but since we were at Karlstal and I have known several "KELLERS" we decided to give it a try.

The people we talked to, starting at the north end of the village, knew nothing about German Colonists or "Kellersheim."

At the south end of the village we met

  • (d) 44K37 Iliyenko Pelagyeya, born 1909.
272023 Ukraine
Odessa Oblast
Berezansk c/c (like Raion(?))
Khutor Dobrozhanovo.

Iliyenko gave us much information that turned out to be rather accurate:

  1. Kellersheim was founded by 4 Keller brothers. They established 4 yards (farms).

  2. Peter Keller left in 1930; to Odessa.

  3. There was a Safron (Severn) also.

  4. All the Kellers left the village.

  5. The Germans were not buried in this, village but were buried at Mandrowo. The Stumpp map gives a Dt. Mandrowo (k) located at C-7, 5-1/2 km NNW of Kellersheim, and 8.8 km ESE of Kagarlyk (Freiberg)

    Mandrowo is also known as "Kellersheim." See 1956 Heimatbuch, pages 183 & 186. District of Belajewka.

    I think "DT." = Deutsch (?).

    • (e) 44K35 Old stone in abandoned section just south of the Ukrainian cemetery. I thought that this was a German stone - I don't know.
    We did not attempt to go to Mandrowo. It does not appear on map P383.11.

    There were no German-type Iron Crosses.

    Pelagyeya used the word "kharoshi" in connection with Mandrovo. = nice or good.

    • (f) 45K2 Looking North from South end of town.
    • (g) 45K1 Old "shed."
    • (h) 45K0 Old "house." I think that this house is also shown on 45K2(?).
    Barbara Weinman (born 1917) nee Keller
    1805 7th Ave. W.
    Seattle, WA 98119
    1-206-282-0745

    Barbara told me that her Grandfather, Wilhelm Keller born 1838 had 4 brothers who started Kellersheim. They were Severn, Peter, Franz, and Johannes.

    These 4 brothers were the "rich" Kellers and did not have much contact with their poor brother, Wilhelm.

    Barbara's sister, Christine Jacoby (Keller) 1904 - 1989 came to the USA in 1911.

    Cousin from Pfeifer Kansas was Sister Francesca.

    I knew Francesca and her brother of Denver. They both have died.

    Barbara's ancestral home is Betsilovo, Bezilova, Bezeilia, Bezilajevka, Bezilowo-Vikovo.

    Located at C-6 on map A02.

    Frances Malsam (Keller) age 96 lives in Montana. She is Barbara's sister.


KELLERSHEIM, 10 March 1994

Herb Poppke
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In the fall of 1993 I made a 32-day trip through Ukraine. I visited, or at least stopped in, about 60 villages, and a half dozen cities. I traveled with a translator, and a driver. In Odessa, Bessarabia, and the area NW of Odessa we "Homestayed." In Kiev, Zhitomir, and Korosten we stayed in hotels.

On Tuesday, 12 Oct 1993 we visited Karlstal located about 29 km WNW of Odessa. While in Karlstal I noticed that the village of Kellersheim was just 1-1/2 km to the west. Kellersheim was a Catholic village having no connection to my family, but I have known a few Kellers. Sister Francesca Keller, 1898-1984, was quite visible at the earlier AHSGR Conventions. It was my privilege to be her chauffeur during the 1976 Denver Convention. Here in Seattle we have an active AHSGR member, Barbara Weinman, nee Keller, born in 1917. I have also known Sister Francesca's brother, and Barbara's sister Christine. So with that background I decided to take a look at Kellersheim.

Kellersheim is a small village situated on the east shoulder of a small valley. On the west shoulder is the cemetery. The valley is only about 1/2 km wide. The road to the village runs along the west shoulder, past the cemetery, then across the valley to the northern part of the village. I recall a north-south street running close to the east shoulder of the valley. The north part of the village seemed to be "flourishing." In the south part there were a few abandoned structures, and a couple of homes at the far end.

The people in the north end had no idea of what we were talking about when we mentioned German Colonists or Kellersheim. I was about to give up when we saw a woman sitting on the bench in front of her yard at the south end of the village. Iliyenko Pelagyeya, born 1909, turned out to be most informative:

She told us that Kellersheim had been founded by 4 Keller brothers who came here and established 4 yards (farms). Peter Keller moved to Odessa in 1930. There also was a Safron (Severn). All the Kellers left the village. She mentioned that the Germans were not buried in the local cemetery but were taken north to Mandrovo for burial. In talking about Mandrovo, Iliyenko used the word "kharoshi" - nice, good, or OK. I don't remember in what context.

Immediately south of the Ukrainian Cemetery is an abandoned plot. I took a picture of an old marker made of stone or concrete that was shaped like a cross. I had assumed that this was a German marker. We did not discuss this with Iliyenko. It is possible that in the early years Germans were buried in Kellersheim, and in later years the burials took place in Mandrovo(?). We did not try to go to Mandrovo. We did not try to locate the yards of the Keller brothers. We did not ask about a church or a school.

Barbara Weinman visited her ancestral village of Bezilova during the summer of 1993 and found a couple of "cousins" still living in the area. But that is another story! Barbara did not visit Kellersheim and was rather interested that I had pictures and a story. Barbara had some information about Kellersheim that she had learned from her cousin, Sister Francesca. I was surprised at how closely Barbara's story paralleled that of Iliyenko's:

The Keller's mother colony was Elsass (Shcherbanka) located about 47 km WNW of Odessa. Wilhelm Keller, born 1838(?), moved to Georgental, and then later to Bezilova. Wilhelm was the grandfather of both Barbara and Sister Francesca. 4 younger brothers of Wilhem - Franz, Severn, Johannes, and Peter - founded Kellersheim. These 4 brothers were known as the "rich" Kellers. They had married wealthy women and built big, nice homes. There was not much contact over the years with Wilhelm the "poor" Keller. There is little information available about the Kellersheim Klan since none(?) of those Kellers came to America(?). Sister Francesca was the chief source of information concerning Kellersheim. She did put some of her recollections into writing and she did visit with Barbara. Sister Francesea writes about traveling through Mandrovo as a young girl and seeing a huge, beautiful mansion belonging to one of the Kellers. It seems that one or more of the Kellers from Kellersheim had moved to Mandrovo.

The fact that Kellers were living in Mandrovo might explain why the Kellersheim burials took vlace in Mandrovo. Were Sister Keller's "beautiful" and Iliyenko's "kharoshi" referring to the same thing?

I have the following information about the 4 Kellersheim brothers:(2)

Franz: born after 1838(?). Married Marina?
Severn: born after 1838(?). Married Clara Wagner.
Johannes: born after 1838(?). Married Marie Fischer.
Peter: born after 1838(?). Married Anastasia Weber.
I have dug up a little information about Kellersheim and the associated villages:

Kellersheim: (Dobrozhanovo), C-7 on the Stumpp map, about 20 km SE of Elsass. Not listed in Sallet. Not listed in Leibbrandt. Listed in the 1956 Heimatbuch, 26 people in 1943, dissolved sometime after 1918. The Stumpp map does not indicate that Kellersheim was dissolved during the Soviet era. Giesinger, page 113, gives (Mandrovo) as an alternate name. Giesinger, page 113, states that the first daughter colony of Elsass was Georgental founded in 1858, and the second daughter colony was Johannestal founded in 1864. Therefore it would seem that Kellersheim would have had to be founded after 1864(?). Kellers from Kellersheim moved to Mandrovo(?).

Dt. Mandrovo: Located about 5 km north of Kellersheim, C-7 on the Stumpp map. Not shown on the 1992 map (my P383). Not listed in Sallet. Not listed in Leibbrandt. Listed in the 1956 Heimatbuch, 50 people in 1918, 29 people in 1943, alternate name of (Kellersheim). I take the "Dt." to mean "Deutsche" - German. There might have been another Mandrovo, or a German section in Mandrovo(?). Kellers from Kellersheim moved to Mandrovo.

Georgental: (Sekryetaryevka(?)), C-7 on the Stumpp map, about 8 km ESE of Elsass. Founded in 1858, the first daughter colony of Elsass. Wilhelm Keller, born 1838(?), was a Georgental pioneer. Later on the Wilhelm Keller Klan moved to Bezilova. Wilhelm was the grandfather of both Barbara Weinman and Sister Francesca.

Bezilovo: (Betsilovo), Located about 18 km north of Elsass, C-6 on the Stumpp map. Founded in 1885. Wilhelm Keller, born 1838, moved here from Georgental. Wilhelm was the grandfather of both Barbara Weinman and Sister Francesca. Antone, John, Clara, and Peter, children of Wilhelm, moved to America(?).

Kellersheim and Dt. Mandrovo appear to be two separate, distinct villages, each with its own name. I think the alternate names listed by Giesinger and in the Heimatbuch are inappropriate(?). But it is clear that there was a close Keller connection between the two villages.

I like to think of Dt. Mandrovo as a daughter colony of Kellersheim. Likewise, I think of Bezilovo as a daughter colony of Georgental. Maybe we have a couple of granddaughter colonies here!
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  1. Herb Poppke, born 19 March 1921 in Goodrich, ND. His father came from eastern Volhynia, his mother from the Odessa area, and his maternal grandparents from Bessarabia. Herb has been an AHSGR member since 1972. He now (1994) lives in Seattle.
  2. Our Family Story, Volume II, 1993. Compiled by Tom & Toni Snyder Keller, 580 S. Birkey St., Bremen, IN 46506. Volumes I and II cover mainly non-Russian people. Volume II does have a little on the Russian Kellers, plus a chapter by Sister Francesca on the Peter Keller family. Peter, born 1873, is Sister Francesca's father. There is also a chapter on the John Keller family written by Mary Ellen Farris. John, born in 1869, is the grandfather of Mary Ellen, and the father of Barbara Weinman. Barbara is Mary Ellen's aunt.

AN AFTERWORD

I received the obituary for Alexander Keller from Barbara Weiman on 20 July 1994. Barbara obtained the obituary at the 1994 GRHS Convention. The obituary indicates that there are/were some Kellersheim people in America. Barbara doesn't know how Alexander is related to the original Kellersheim people. Barbara has no information on those Kellersheim people who came to America. Barbara is curious about them.

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KARLSTAL (Schellenberg, Shirakaya Balka)

Founded in 1899.
4595 acres in 1918.
193 people in 1918.
226 people in 1943.

46° 32.0' N × 30° 21.0' E.
C-7 on Map A02.

Tuesday, 12 Oct 1993.

Map P383.11 w/Appendix.
Map P383.111 w/Kellersheim.
Map P174.61 w/Odessa City.
Map A02.4 w/Josephstal.

  • (a) 44K29 Sign + Alexei #2 Translator.
  • (b) 44K30 Nikolai, born 1929 Herb P. born 1921
  • (c) 44K32 Looking North from South End of Town.
There had been a German Kolkhoz here by the name of "Mannheim-Kamenka."

Leonov, Nikolai,Nik??vich
272014(?) Ukraine,
Odessa Oblast,
Belyaevskie Raion,
Selo Shirakaya Balka
Lenina Street 34

Nikolai remembered some German names: J. Schatz, Adam Fol (Faul?), Pfaff.

Said that there never had been a church here(?).

German Cemetery trashed in 1983±. We found nothing. Cemetery was located at the SE edge of town.

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JOSEPHSTAL (Sergejewka, Josipovka)

Founded in 1804. 8929 acres in 1918. 1809 people in 1943; 1148 people-1918.

46° 24.2' N × 30° 25.7' E.
C-8 on map A02.

12 Oct 1993. Tuesday.

Map P383.11 w/Appendix.
Map P383.111 w/Kellersheim.
Map P174.61 w/Odessa City.
Map A02.4 w/Josephstal.

  • (a) 45K21 Sign + Alexei #2, Translator.
  • (b) 45K25 Alyosha #1, Driver. Lidiya, Eva's Granddaughter. Born 1960. Eva Ferdinandovna Weimer, Nee Tiefenbach (Diefenbach), Born 1915. Catholic.
Went west with the German troops. Repatriated to the east. Came back from Kazakhstan in 1956.

AHSGR WP-20, Spring 1976, pp48-49.

272068 Ukraine,
Odessa Oblast,
Ovidiopolskie Raion,
Selo Josipovka

  • (c) 45K33 Front of Club.
  • (d) 45K32 Rear of Klub.
  • (e) 45K31 Cemetery Debris.
Club is located on the west side of main street. Club had been a German building(?).

Church had been just south of Club(?). Only some concrete remains.

German Cemetery is south of the Ukrainian Cemetery, but within the same fence.

A few bases remain. No inscriptions(?).

SW corner of fenced area has some evidence of German Graves.

Some German Gravestones were used in the construction of a stone wall just south of the Cemetery.

There is a pile of Cemetery Debris just east of the fenced area. 45K31.

Some remnants of Iron Crosses remain.

  • (f) 45K29
  • (g) 45K26
  • (h) 45K28
  • (i) 45K30


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LENINTAL (Adolfstal)

Founded in 1925.
265 People in 1943.

C-8 on map A02.
Tuesday, 12 Oct 1993.

  • (a) 45K22 Looking NE.
  • (b) 45K24 2 Girls and Herb Poppke.
  • (c) 45K23 Looking north. View of street.
I don't know why we did not get the names of the two sisters. SE end of town.

272068(?) Ukraine
Odessa Oblast
Ovidiopol Raion
Selo Lenintal

Map P383.11 w/Appendix.
Map P383.111 w/Kellersheim.
Map P174.61 w/Odessa.
Map A02.4 w/Josephstal.

46° 25.7' N × 30° 28.0' E.


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KLEINLIEBENTAL (Ksonyevka, Ksenjewka, Malo Dolinskoye)

46° 21.1' N × 30° 37.7' E.
D-8 on map A02.

Founded in 1804.
11,351 acres in 1918.
2127 people in 1918.
3018 people in 1943.

Wednesday, 13 Oct 1993.
Map P383.11 w/Appendix.
Map P383.111 w/Kellersheim.
Map P174.61 w/Odessa City.
Map A02.4 w/Josephstal.

These pictures were taken on the road from Grossliebental to Lustdorf as we were leaving Kleinliebental.

Views are to the east and south towards the opposite shore.

  • (a) 48K2 Leaving town.
  • (b) 48K1
  • (c) 48K0
We didn't go into the city. It was getting late.

Doris Dickenson has written about her trips to Kleinliebental:

JL-16/1, pp1-8, Spr 1993.
HR-23/4, pp9-13 Dec 1993.

AHSGR WP-20, p48, Spr 1976.

These views of Kleinliebental were taken on the road from Grossliebental.

  • (d) 47K36
  • (e) 47K37


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LUSTDORF (Olgino, Kaisersheim, Chernomorka)

Founded in 1805.
2970 Acres in 1918.
528 people in 1918.
622 people in 1943.
208 people in 1815.

Wednesday, 13 Oct 1993.
46° 21.4' N × 30° 42.0' E.
D-8 on map A02.

Map P383.11 w/Appendix.
Map P383.111 w/Kellersheim.
Map P174.61 w/Odessa.
Map A02.4 w/Josephstal.

HMG pp 120-137.
HHS pp 66-68.

These views are looking about NE± on the road to Lustdorf from Kleinliebental.

  • (a) 48K3
  • (b) 48K4
  • (c) 48K5
Met a man who spoke some German. He knew a German family by the name of Vainakht (Weinacht?). He said his wife knew more Germans. Vladimir Fedosyevich.

The old church is gone. It had stood just west of the school. I don't know if the present school is the old German school(?).

132 Yards in 1944 (1943?)

I have the name "Schwartz Dil" but I don't know why.

  • (d) 48K7 Said to be a German Grave located beside a Ukrainian Grave. The German Grave is not enclosed in one of those little fences or cribs. The stone(?) cross looks recent. No inscription. My guess is that the German was Catholic. The Ukrainians gave the Catholics more respeet than they did the German Protestants(?). I think!
  • (e) 48K6 Grigoryev, Boris Pavlovich. Born 1945.
270037 Ukraine,
Odessa Oblast,
Raion (?)
Ambulatornaya Street 9,
Selo Chernomorka.

This is an old German Crypt. There was another one but we got no pictures.

They said that the "old" Cemetery slid into the Black Sea.

  • (f) 48K10 Looking West(?).
  • (g) 48K9 Looking East(?).
  • (h) 48K8 Bottom. Looking North(?). The upper-black item is, the underside of the partial roof.
The Ukrainians tend to put a little iron fence or crib around their graves. Also pictures on the Stones.


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GÜLDENDORF (Kutosovo, Krasnosyelka)

Founded in 1830.
13,862 acres in 1918.
997 people in 1918.
1381 people in 1943.

46° 37' N × 30° 46' E.
D-7 on Map A02.

Map P383.11 w/Appendix.
Map P383.111 w/Kellersheim.
Map P174.61 w/Odessa.
Map A02.4 w/Josephstal.
Map P205.4 w/Güldendorf.

Monday, 4 Oct 1993.

  • (a) 40K16A Sign and Herb P.
  • (b) 40K17A Short; brown coat: Danilenko, Boris Grigorievic. Tall; grey coat: Mazer, Nikolas Niki? b1942.
Boris Grigorievic
272168 Ukraine,
Odessa Oblast,
Kominternovskie Raion,
Selo Krasnosyelka,
Sovetskoye Army St. 29

He speaks some German.
Mother = Rosa Klinemann (Klingmann, Kleinemann?) b1895 in Annental, now Bilyari (Dorf Anadan) ENE of Odessa.
Father = Danilenko, Grigorie Moisevich, b1883.

They gave some names of former Germans: Martin Koe(?) Christopher Schrott, John Stopbulger, Gottlieb Gwenter.

They named some former German villages in the area: Khutor Penkovo Samorukovo, Stavki (Jener), Volkov.

"Grenz von Güldendorf" Alvina Schurr.

Curt Renz (Village of ?)

Old German Baptist(?) Church located downtown just west of main street.

They said that it was now a movie house.

Sign says "House of Culture."

  • (c) 40K30A Main Entrance.
  • (d) 40K29A Rear-Corner.
  • (e) 40K28A Sign.
  • (f) 40K21A The Cemetery is located west(?) of town. Beyond the Luthern Church. Few inscriptions remain.
  • (g) 40K23A Said to be the iron crosses of two German Catholics. The graves are inside of the cemetery but they are not enclosed in the little fences or cribs. I think that the Ukrainians treated the German Catholics better than they treated the German Protestants.
  • (h) 40K19A German (Herrmann), Roman Gerbertovich (Herbertovich), Herb Poppke. Roman's wife, Alevtina, a Russian. I don't know who the woman on the left is. Kalinia Street 101.
I have a note that says that Güldendorf is not the "home" village of the Herrmann family.

There were Herrmann's in Teplitz/Bessarabia.

I have another note that says that Roman was born in Güldendorf in 1929.

Roman's father = Herbert b1895 in Nikolaev.

Romants mother was Eigene (Eibene) Schneider b1903.

Herbert H. was the preacher at the west (Lutheran?) Church during the Occupation, WWII.

1944 - Poland, Litzmannstadt, Parish of Galko(?), Dorf Grünberg. East to Ural's. 1964 to Güldendorf.

  • (i) 40K22A Iron Gross. Why is the lower arm at an angle? Note the "Lei" on the Cross. Often they will drape a cloth over the cross. Ukrainians.
  • (j) 40K20A Hier ruht in Gott Jakob Griger geb. den 16 Juni 1852, gest. den 9 November 1869.
  • (k) 40K18A Roman German. (Herrmann) When we ask him to show us around town, he decided to put on some better clothes. An ethnic German. Born 1929.
This building had been the German Lutheran(?) Church.

Was a Club prior to WWII.

During the occupation it was a Church again with Herbert Herrmann (b1895) as minister. Now, 1993, it is an apartment building.

Located at the west(?) edge of town.

The Cemetery is beyond the Church.

  • (l) 40K24A Looking South(?).
  • (m) 40K25A Looking East(?).
  • (n) 40K27A Looking North(?).
Note the fence material.

Note the power pole strapped to a concrete stub-pole. This is a common practice.

STUFF

Put a nail in the flour.

Chervya'k - Worms.

Syrniki - Cheese filled pancakes.

Bize - Cream Puffs.

Chernoplodnaya Ryabina

Black Fruit Pits. Mountain Ash(???)

Little blue grape-like berries. Supposed to be healthy. Must be true because they taste awful.

Sunday is the last day of the week.


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LUDMILA SHEVCHUK

My landlady in Odessa and also the tour leader for MIR Corp. of Seattle.

Ludmila is a mathematics professor at a local engineering college.

Ludmila's English is fair.

  • (a) 36K9A Ludmila & Alla.
  • (b) 36K8A Herb Poppke & Alla.
  • (c) 48K11 Dinning Table.
The table was set for 9 people for a going home dinner for me. My flash was not working!

270021 Ukraine
Odessa Oblast
Odessa City
Podbyelskogo Street #38-A
Apt #KV-1
Tel: 0482/26-82-75
Odessa Fax: 0482/22-22-74
Email: odessaeco@glas.apc.org (Modem)

Ludmila = Luda
15 Dec 1955;
172 cm; 60 kg.

I slept in Luda's bed. I ate at Luda's while I was in Odessa.

Luda's Grandmother, mother, and brother lived in the rather large apartment. Also a dog and a cat. And the brother's wife. And other drop-ins.

Luda, Lidiya and I made a tour of Odessa. Walking.

Luda and I went to the Opera, Wiedergeburt, and to a concert.

Luda did not travel with me to the Colonies.

  • (d) 36K5A Painting of Luda's mother, Alla.
  • (e) 35K32 Luda and Lidiya.
  • (f) 36K4A Luda and her Grandmother, Anna.
Lidiya went along on the City tour. She was the translator. Luda's translating would have been OK.

Lidiya Silina
270001 Ukraine; Odessa Oblast
Odessa City
Lenina Street 17; Apt KV-10
Tel: 22-36-38

My trip was from 16 Sep to 16 Oct 1993.

10+ days in Volhynia. The rest of the time in the Odessa area.

Hoffnungstal - Glückstal Area, Bessarabia, Colonies in the Odessa Area.

It was a little too cold. Should have gone a month earlier. It was foggy in Bessarabia. 1 day of rain in Bessarabia.

Plenty of food.

Bathrooms and toilets ????????

  • (g) 42K9A In Alt-Elft/Bess. Nikolas Zhuzha, Teplitz. Leonid Inglik, Alt-Elft. Wife Anastasiya. Alexei #2 - Translator. Alyosha #1 - Driver.
Leonid had been a German - Hugo Jüngling. Born 1930. See Alt-Elft in Bessarabia.

Alyosha #1 Sosnin, born 1960.
270021 Ukraine
Odessa Oblast
Odessa City
Frantsa Meringa Street 29
Apt KV-2
Tel: 26-56-90

Alexei #2 Evstratov, Born 1961.
270059 Ukraine
Odessa Oblast
Odessa City
Chernomorskaya Doroga 58b. (Street)
Apt KV-16.
Tel: 66-84-72

  • (h) 38K2 School Kassel/ Glückstal "Drinking Fountain" The Brown Pan might be a washbasin(? )
  • (i) 40K31A Odessa(?) The cork in the lid handle is a neat trick. Never too hot to handle.
  • (j) 44K24 Herb and Kuzu.
  • (k) 36K10A Kuzu. (Cat)
  • (l) 36K11A Rem. (Dog)
Luda's brother = Aleksandr, His wife = Marina.

Luda's Ex.= Geindiy(?).

Luda's mother = Alla.

Luda's G. Mother = Anna.

Lots of visitors.

Santa Barbara seemed to be the favorite TV show. In the Russian language.

  • (m) 36K2A "Supports" Are they to keep the utensils clean, or are they to keep the table clean? There is no room for the spoon since he ran away with a dish.
  • (n) 44K27 Luda's Apartmpnt Building. Note the "Fire escape." Big doorway leads from the courtyard to the street.
  • (o) 44K28 Side view of "Fire escape." What a monstrosity!


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WIEDERGEBURT (Rebirth)

I visited the Odessa office of Wiedergeburt on Oct 1993.

This organization is concerned with Germanic Ukrainians.

There seems to be some relationship to the Ukrainisch-Deutscher Fonds. I visited the Fonds office in Kiew. Eduard Lir.

Alexej Keller is the director of the Odessa Rebirth. Born in 1962. His village is Pschenjanoe (Neu-Petersburg) located at E-6 on map A02. This is NE of Odessa near the Gebiet border. Catholic. Kominternovskiy Raion.

His father = Nikolej 1937.
G. Fath. = Nikolej 1906.
GG. Fath. = Jakow 1868.
GGG. Fath. = Tomas 18??.

  • (a) 44K26 Schneider, Herb P. and Keller.
  • (b) 44K25 Schneider & Keller.
Josef Schneider, b1947, son of Josef 1900, and Klementina Holmann 1907, Dau. of Adam H.

Catholic - Volga Deutsch. Village was Marienfeld in the Erlenbacher Kanton. B-8 on Map A06. B.S.

Schneider is Keller's assistant.

Gottfried Kern and a delegation from Germany were at Rebirth. They were talking about setting up an agricultural Joint Venture.

A German "Sunday" school was to open up the next week. I don't know if this was to be a bible school or just held on Sunday. About 100 children and about 50 adults were expected.

Karl Lacher reports that there is an Archive in an old Jewish Church. I did not go there.

Luda's mother, Alla, said that there was a museum at Yaski that we should visit. We did not. 23 km WNW of Freudental. Director = Michail Potapov.


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ODESSA CITY

1993 Population 1,300,000±
1926 Population 417,690
1926 Germans 5,522
46° 28.3' N × 30° 43.4' E.
D-8 on map A02.

Fall of 1993.

Map P383.11 w/Appendix.
Map P383.111 w/Kellershein.
Map P174.61 w/Odessa.
Map A02.4 w/Josephstal.

There are 192 Potemkin Steps going down to the Harbor.

Note the steps for Giants at both the left & right.

  • (a) 35K36 Herb in red cap.
  • (b) 35K37
  • (c) 35K34 Black Sea Harbor.
Alla Shevchuk said that there is a museum located about 48 km west of Odessa at Yaski that we should see. We didn't. Director: Mikhail Potapov.

Karl Lacher said that there was an Archive located in an old Jewish Synagogue. We did not see it.

Yes, we walked down and up the 192 steps!

  • (d) 40K13A St. Paul's Lutheran Church. See 40K14A & 15A.
  • (e) 35K31 A downtown apartment building.
  • (f) 35K35 Ludmilla Shevchuk with black bag. My host. She knows some English. See additional sheets on Ludmilla. Did a good job. Lidiya Silina with white coat. The translator for the tour of Odessa. They are holding maps that we had purchased. View is toward the Harbor from the top of the Potemkin Steps.
  • (g) 40K15A Front of St. Paul's Church.
  • (h) 40K14A Side of St. Paul's Church.
  • (i) 35K33 Opera House.
In HR-23/4, p10, Doris Dickenson writes: "We also saw St. Paulls Lutheran Church, first built in 1823, and rebuilt in 1895, It was severely damaged. during the war and rebuilding began again in 1976. Materials were stolen and fires started to cover the thefts. Now the German congregation has reinforced the walls with metal and is installing doors. This summer (1993) they will begin holding services inside, even though it is only a shell without an interior or a roof." See also 40K13

Ludmilla Shevchuk and I went to a night of Rossini at the Opera House.

We ran into a German tour group that had visited Bessarabia, Teplitz, Friedenstal, etc.

The Opera House was beautiful. Price cheap. Performance good.


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